Showing posts with label neuroscience. Show all posts
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Wednesday, December 11, 2013

The "Monkey Wrench" Variations on a Neuroscientific Experiment

A continuation on the previous post.

Upon further thought, here are a couple of "Monkey Wrench" (as in "throwing a monkey wrench into") versions:

Variation Three:

Take Variation Two. So, here we have our chain of subjects (again, let's make it ten people) with their monitoring equipment and Right or Left selection devices. To be clear, the situation, if the theory is correct and the experiment works as the theory implies, looks like this:

Person A is going to choose to pick either Right or Left. According to the original experiment, Person B, who has access to the real time brain scan will know which direction Person A will click about six seconds before Person A actually "consciously" choses to click a given direction. Person B is instructed to click the direction Person A is going to click the moment he or she sees the information on the screen; that is, Person B will chose to click the direction Person A is going to click in a few moments.

Now, given the results of the initial experiment, Person B's brain scan will show which direction he or she is going to click about six seconds before he or she actually clicks it; therefore, Person C, who is monitoring the activity of person B, should be able to click the direction Person B is going to click before Person B clicks the direction.

This chain forms, given our ten people, to the final person, J, who ought to be able to click the direction that Person A is going to click about a minute before Person A actually clicks that direction.

Now, here's the Monkey Wrench:

Once we are half way through the chain, say, after Person F has clicked his or her direction, but before the remainder of the chain (from Person E to Person A--remember that the last person in the chain will actually be clicking the direction first) clicks this same direction, we tell Person A to click the opposite direction.

So, what now, brown cow?

Does someone's head explode à la Scanners (extreme graphic content: do not watch if you are squeamish or sensitive to such things):


or what?

Variation Four:

Given that it might be difficult to set up a chain of people in such monitoring conditions, and since we currently do not know for sure if such a chain would produce the suggested theoretical results, let's do it like this:

Perform the original experiment, but give the Subject being monitored a set of head phones and give the person doing the monitoring a microphone that is connected to those headphones.

Now, when the Monitor sees that the subject is about to select, say, Right, six seconds before he or she is actually going to consciously choose to select Right, have the Monitor tell the subject to select the opposite direction, so, in this instance, Left.

Given the six second differential, this should be plenty of time for the Monitor to send the signal to the Subject and give the Subject plenty of time to select the direction the Monitor suggests.

Again, I wonder what would occur? Would the person still select Right and be unable to do otherwise? Or would he or she be able to select Left, but, if so, what does that mean about the initial brain scan data that suggests he or she was going to "choose" Right? Or, once again, does someone's head explode à la Scanners (go ahead and watch the above clip again, you know you want to)?

If nothing else, this particular Monkey Wrench version really needs to be tested.

Variations On a Neuroscientific Experiment I'd Like to See



An interesting experiment with possibly profound results! While this does lead to questions about our notions of Free Will vs. Determinism, that's not necessarily what I wanted to talk about here at this time. Instead, I'd like to mention a couple of possible variations on this experiment that I think would be interesting to create, perform, and see what the resultant outcomes are.

Variation One:

Place two people into two separate scanning devices. Each person is equipped with the Left & Right clicker boxes. Each person also can see a screen which shows images of the other person's brain activity in real time and each of them has been trained to read the images so that he or she can recognize what the images of the scan mean; that is, each person would be able to recognize and understand when the other person was going to click left or right before the other person consciously decides to do so.

Now, give each of them the following instruction:

The moment you see on the screen that the other person is going to click right or left you will click the same.

I wonder what the outcome of this would be?

This would bring in a feedback dynamic whereby each one ought to know what the other is going to do before the other person actually clicks either button. Person A would be watching a screen prepared to click either left or right dependent upon which direction Person B was about to click in a few a seconds--so Person A ought to be able to click the same direction before Person B; however, Person B would be watching a screen which would tell him or her which direction Person A was about to click, and thus, be able to click the same direction a few seconds before Person A actually clicks the direction. In other words, each one of them ought to be able to click the direction the other is going to pick before the other consciously decides to do so.

Under ideal conditions--conditions where we can assure that both people would make their choices at the same time--I wonder how this would play out?

Variation Two:

Daisy chain a series of devices together--let's say ten for now--so that each person in the chain is able to see a monitor that displays the brain activity of the person previous to him or her. Again, make sure each individual can read the monitor and understand the information it displays--i.e., each person could read the information and know which button the person previous to him or her is about to click a few seconds before he or she would click it.

Again, give each individual, except the first one, of course, an instruction to click the same button the person previous to him or her is about to click.

Run the experiment.

Theoretically, the last person in the chain, in this instance the 10th person, ought to be able to click the same direction that the 1st person in the chain will click about a full minute before the first person actually clicks his or her button. As stunning as the results of the actual experiment in the video above are, I think this would be even more amazing.

In theory, we could set this up with any number of people, with the result being that the last person in the chain would click the button that the first person in the chain will click long before he or she clicks it: with one hundred people in the chain, for example, the last person could click the same button that the first person will click about an hour before he or she will actually make the choice to click right or left. Theoretically, this would work every time for each click the person at the beginning of the chain will "choose".

So, would this be called "precognition" or something else?